Preserved Topic: Sky Taffy (a.k.a. "GULLWING TEXT") (Page 1 of 2)

Well, I finally had time to wite up my version of the gullwing tut...here it is: <a href="http://kublai_khan.tripod.com/dagnabit/skytaffy.html" target="new">http://kublai_khan.tripod.com/dagnabit/skytaffy.html</a>. Let me know how it is!<P>------------------
P.S. forgive the annoying pop-up menu...just minimize it 'til your done<P><p>[This message has been edited by DL-44 (edited 29-03-2000).]

Whoa, scary. Almost exactly the same steps I used for creating mine in the first place! Great tute, I love it. One thing I would request, save your example images at a higher quality level, I usually don't cut corners when doing my tutes, they may be big for an average web page, but this stuff is *important*. If it's OK with you, I wouldn't mind adding this to the handson archive as a "guest tutorial", how would you feel about that? Full links back and credits, etc, etc... Lemme know, cool?<P>Your pal, -doc-
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----- Doctor Thaddeus Ozone --------- "Specialization is for insects"---
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That'd be great Doc, thanks! It's encouraging to be able to impress someone of your stature : )
Yeah, I did hone down the jpeg quality a little...I can fix that though. Hopefully I can get my whole page finished finally so that i'd actually have something to link to....<P><P>------------------

Ok, here's a question - I went a step farther and and the orange "borders" on my table, but I have a big orange strip across the top and I can't figure out why! Any idea? <P>------------------

Hey DL-44 you still a maniac? Oh well, I imagine a few more posts and you'll be a full fledged lunatic eh?<P>Good tute. I would like to suggest a few adjustments: consider making the table width smaller so it can acommodate smaller monitors (the one at the office-office is only a 15") and as for your lighting effects screenshot, I can barely see it no matter which display I use...can you enlarge that one please?<P>I'm really looking forward to using your tute this weekend! I'll let you know how it goes, and congrats on being the first handson guest! That's a way cool honor.<P>Thanks!! <IMG SRC="http://www.ozones.com/forum/cool.gif">

Please post the psd when you have a chance.<P>(picky-picky...I know)<P>Muchos gracias

Way to go DL-44, like it bundles. The tutes now sitting on a cd, I'll enjoy creating with it later.
Big congrats on being the first of Docs handson guests - nice one - deserved. <IMG SRC="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif"><P>Hey Doc, if your going to have a guest Tute page, how about calling it "Little Ozone Tutorials" after the "Little Ozone Links". What d'ya think??<P>------------------

Yeah, all the example images will be re-done. I was trying to balance quality/file size and came out to far to one side apparently (it was like 2:00 am and I'd had a few to drink...so it all looked fuzzy to me any which way).<P>Any way, I will clean it up and add a .PSD file, and I'll see about narrowing the page. It's a % width table, and the images and the cellpadding should set it to need 680 pixels at it's narrowest -- what resoultion do you use 2wins? 800x600 should be fine but any lower would cause scroll bars. Let me know if I'm wrong about that anyone...k?<P>And of course, I feel really honored to be considered for a guest-tute spot on Doc Ozone's site -- it's encouraging to know that I have reached a point where I know to some extent what I'm doing, with a lot of thanks to Doc himself.<P>
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Okay, I re-did the sample images. It will take a bit longer to download, but it looks *lots* better. I used a different font for the new images, just for variation.<P>
------------------WOO-HOO!!! I'M A LUNATIC!<p>[This message has been edited by DL-44 (edited 30-03-2000).]

YAY!! Greetings fellow Lunatic! <P>I like the tute much better now, but I'm still not seeing the .psd file(?) <P>Also, could you mention what distortion method you may have used (or combo thereof) to obtain your specific results for the examples on your page?<P>Thanks DL-44. It's folks like you and Doc that make the photoshop world a nicer place to be <IMG SRC="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

That's a firm endorsement on 2wins last comment....
I'm glad you got the pics, just hope you like 'em. Took your advice about Tripod, signed up tonight.
Thanks bunches my friend <IMG SRC="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif"><P>------------------

For the original version (the header pic) I used the FLEXURE font, and at the very end, just linked my layers and did a "free transform" to scrunch it all down a little. For the example picks I used a pure unadulterated BEESKNESS ITC font. I'm gonna do a couple variations with some distorted text and stuff like that and post 'em at the bottom.
If anyone is interested I'll make a second page to show other peoples versions. Let me know.<P>BTW -- any ideas on my little table anomaly? (the big orange strip across the top that I cen't seem to get rid of)<P>------------------

Hey DL-44, I believe it's this line of code here that's the culprit:<P><table width="95%" cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0 bgcolor="#993300"><P>I'll try emailing you direct too.<p>[This message has been edited by DocOzone (edited 31-03-2000).]

Hmmm... it appears that someone has messed up the HTML of the table. I can fix that if people like...

Woah! it's really messed up! Yeah, I think I'll fix that...

Ah ha! When 2WinPapa (or whatever) included his line of code, it actually came out as HTML code. You can only do that in the JavaScript / DHTML forum. Let's see if this post fixes it...<P></td></tr></table>
</td></tr><tr><td>
I hope it does...<p>[This message has been edited by DocOzone (edited 31-03-2000).]

Testing testing 1 2 3

Woohoo! Another thread saved by Slime!<P>No need to applaud, fellas. All in a day's work.<P>Heh...

ACK!! Sorry bout that folks!

We do not accept apologies wins2! you're a LAWYER!!!! accckh hehe kidding. the new tut looks way better DL-44 dude, thankies. Way to go, go ahead and reveal all of Docs' techniques <IMG SRC="http://www.ozones.com/forum/wink.gif"><P>Never Pet a Burning Dog
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Hey, nice save! Still, with the power of a RAVING LUNATIC I was able to save the thread even further. The broken bit and the fix by slime have been left intact. Slime is hereby promoted to Raving Lunatic, with the ability to edit the posts of others, tinkering all he pleases!<P>Your pal, -doc-
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----- Doctor Thaddeus Ozone --------- "Specialization is for insects"---

<P>That 1st table bit is necessary to make the orange lines between the cells of my nested table (just like this one right here...that's where I got it obviously). I just can't seem to make my second table fill my first table all the way to the top : (<P>Can you help me Doc? <P>------------------
<p>[This message has been edited by DL-44 (edited 31-03-2000).]

Wow, you made me a raving lunatic? Thanks! I'll try not to abuse my power. =)

OK, got it! All of the "th" tags had "br"'s in front of them, but *not* inside the cell! Apparently Netscape didn't know where to put them, so it put them all on the page, BEFORE that table! Sheesh, that one was a bitch to track down, I finally just went from cell to cell until I spotted it. See my online representation of it at http://www.ozones.com/handson/dl-44/SkyTaffy/ . If you'll give me a line or three of copyeight text and a place to link it back to I'll tie in the link as an announcement on the front page. Lemme know!<P>Your pal, -doc-
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----- Doctor Thaddeus Ozone --------- "Specialization is for insects"---

Whew! Thanks Doc...I was losing my mind -- figured it had to be something that simple, but couldn't find it. I copied and pasted form my first table header, so it got all of 'em.
Only had time to look real quick at the page, on my way to work now. I'll drop a line later -- really appreciate the spot Doc, it'll be great advertising for me. Mighty generous of you : )
BTW, nice save Slime -- you raving lunatic you!<P>------------------

YAY!! SLIME!!<P>If I knew (how) I could have fixed the thread myself I would have....<P>How'd you do that anyway? Sometimes it takes the uncluttered mind of a young person to fix things us older folks mess up!<P>Anyway, you have me to "thank" for your promotion (indirectly) <IMG SRC="http://www.ozones.com/forum/wink.gif">

Haha, good point. Thanks for messing up your post, then. =)<P>You can see the HTML code that I put in my post now, Doc made it visbile. You had made a table tag, which started a new table, so I just ended the cell that my post was in, ended the table, ended your cell, and began a new row and cell.<P>I've done this before in other forums, beleive me, I messed up badly the first few times. Made the problems worse. But hey, you get better at anything over time. I would say it's like riding a bike, but I forgot how to ride my bike about 3 or 4 summers in a row and had to relearn each time. I still can't do it. But, that's another story. =)<P>-Slime<P>PS: is HTML allowed in the signatures yet?

Thanks Slime I saw that! Way to go...now maybe you should "mess" up and let ME save you <IMG SRC="http://www.ozones.com/forum/wink.gif"><P>This place could always use another raving looney <IMG SRC="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

Can someone else give the skytaffy tute a go and follow it as outlined. It goes as described right up until the point of the bevel and then *blech* it lacks that same "inset" look that I'm craving (somebody help me!).<P>I wonder if they would reverse my lobotomy it would help?<P>Heck, I'm just gonna up my meds ;-)

I went through and did the tute. What worked for me on the inset look was to do the second part of Step 6 a second time, except I increased and decreased the brightness by 50% instead of 100%. Once I did that I got the inset effect. It helps that once you nudge the selection around to hide the marching ants (Ctrl+H on Win) then you can see what you are doing much better. Just remember to bring the ants back before moving it again, this helps to make sure you are in the right spot. You can keep doing the second half of Step 6 as many times as you need to. Tutes are not "written in stone", they are meant to be changed and played with, have fun.
I used a slightly narrower font (HuskyStash) for my font, and I didn't mess with it at all to make it fat. I think the fatter the better for this effect.
My "quicky" version of Gull Wing can be found at http://innerworld.com/F1_error/f1_gullwing.jpg It's just a quick pic, so no apologies are given. <P>------------------
-I'm not a complete idiot,
there are some parts missing.

Papa -- what he said...I do state in that step to repeat if necessary, and in fact, I did repeat at only 50% as F1 Error stated. BTW F1, nice work on your version. Personally would increase the highlight on the inner portion, but yours does have a different sunken kind of feel. pretty cool. It's overwhelming to see that people are using and discussing my tutorial! And of course...this tute in particular is not written in stone, seeing as it's my take on someone else's work (a particularly generous and talented someone else I might add).<P>------------------

OK I'll giver her a go and let you know what I end up with.

Go for it 2wins... after all, it was you who started it all off <IMG SRC="http://www.ozones.com/forum/wink.gif"><P><P>------------------

Yeah Phil...shame on me for not coming through sooner huh!<P>Well, I've come very very close to Doc's version, and I may decide to actually use it or may try for perfection (or as close to is as I can get anyway). <P>It almost appears as if Doc used one color (instead of two) for his "sky" color, and it also appears that he may have used the same gold color during his rendering/lightfx stage because his looks just a tad bit bolder....but that's just a guess.<P>I will post the "final" results on my site sometime this weekend...<P>And thanks guys for the 50% suggestion, that was definitely the ticket!

I look forward to seeing that 2wins. In the meantime, check out my humble offerings. http://scansped.tripod.com/cgi-bin/Images_1/Sky_Taffy.jpg
or http://scansped.tripod.com/cgi-bin/Images_1/Stars_2.jpg
....a novices first step<P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DocOzone:
If you'll give me a line or three of copyeight text and a place to link it back to I'll tie in the link as an announcement on the front page. Lemme know!<P><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Well, been thinking about the copyright text..and I haven't the faintest idea what to write -- things I would normally say seem kind of silly since it's your work I wrote the tute for!?
I'm making a quick preview page to link to, because I'm not quite finished with my major rework of my site yet. I don't get NEARLY enough time to work on it, and I'm trying to figure out some complicated stuff (for me anyway - some DHTML layer stuff). The URL is http://kublai_khan.tripod.com , so use that. It's where my main site will be when I finish it too. Like the look of it on your page : )
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OK....it's as close as I had the time for ;-)
http://www.hypersolutions.com/ <P>Let me know what you guys think!<P>------------------
"I may not be fast, but I sure am slow."

That looks right on to me. I'm just wondering what you have planed to do with it though, I noticed you split it in half. <P>------------------
-I'm not a complete idiot,
there are some parts missing.

Wow, this is great. Nice work Phil, Nate. Do you mind if i put them on a collection page attached to the tutorial? How about you F1? Any one else?<P>------------------

I don't have a problem with it. But if I have the time I might redo it if it's gonna be more for public consumption. In the meantime though, feel free to use it.<P>------------------
-I'm not a complete idiot,
there are some parts missing.