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Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 03-02-2002 06:17

I'm playing with the "overflow: auto" property and in IE I can get the scroll bars on the divs to look really nice with the rest of the page because of the colors. Is this something I should get used to or is it just an IE thing? It sure is a nice feature!

mr.maX
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Belgrade, Serbia
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 03-02-2002 06:57

Colored scroll bars are IE only thing. Every other web browser will show either OS specific scroll bar, or their own scroll bar (like Mozilla)...


Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 03-02-2002 08:37

It almost totally defeats the usefulness of the auto overflow though. Having a default scroll bar in the middle of your page can be incredibly distracting and ugly. Oh well, that's the way it goes.

kuckus
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Berlin (almost)
Insane since: Dec 2001

posted posted 03-02-2002 11:41

But some 'little' browsers like KDE's Konqueror do support the coloured scroll-bars. Maybe there are more to come...

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 03-02-2002 13:46

Bugs: Its not in the CSS3 proposed specs (as far as I'm aware) and so it will be up to individual browser makers to decide if they support it. Given their reluctance to accept someone else's ideas on this kind of thing I suspect it is unlikely that the IE way of doing things will be supported but I also wouldn't be suprised if Moz eventually produced something similar like they did with -moz-opacity (I was quite suprised by the number of Moz-specific styles there are available and a -moz-scrollbar would certainly prove popular as it has certainly taken off with IE).

kuckus: Thanks for that information - very interesting.

Emps

mr.maX
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Belgrade, Serbia
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 03-02-2002 19:39

I doubt that Mozilla will support colored scrollbars, because it wouldn't be very easy to modify skin images dynamically (Mozilla draws complete interface from selected skin), unless Mozilla development team implements image editing features in Mozilla...


Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 03-02-2002 21:11

mr.maX, by image editing features, do you mean that we might be able to specify our own graphical skins for Mozilla? That would be pretty cool.

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 03-02-2002 21:22

maX: Thanks for the technical note.

Bugs: You already can sort of (try a quick search in Google [try something like 'Mozilla XUL' I think] - or look in the thread here [I think] on Moz-specific stylesheets as I've put a few relevantish links in there).

Emps

Bugimus
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: New California
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 03-02-2002 22:28

Thanks Emps, I'll check 'em out.

mr.maX
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Belgrade, Serbia
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 03-03-2002 07:15

As Emperor said, you can already create your own Mozilla themes. Here are a few related links:

http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/netscape6/ui07.php
http://home.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/ns6/themes/index.html
http://home.netscape.com/themes/develop/index.html

Now, by image editing features, I'm referring to basic editing features, like colorizing, so that Mozilla can dynamically alter images that are used when creating scrollbar according to CSS specification for scrollbar...




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